If you've ever wondered what it's like to be the CEO of Apple, Tim Cook recently sat down for an interview with Table Manners podcast

Cook spoke to Table Manners podcast hosts Jessie and Lennie Ware when he was visiting London in December. He revealed that he still employs the hardworking

Apple CEO Tim Cook got his first job at just 11 and couldn’t afford his MBA without working—but that’s not what he says shaped his work ethic It’s hard to recall a time before Tim Cook worked at Apple—after all he joined the company in 1998,

Under his leadership, Apple shattered all previous records to reach a market capitalisation of over $3 trillion — bigger than the gross domestic product (GDP) of several nations.

Among the key management skills he learned from Jobs was the importance of not being married to past beliefs, a competency that Cook says few leaders possess. Jobs welcomed debates, relished being challenged, and valued those who were willing to admit they were wrong when new evidence emerged.

Apple CEO Tim Cook took home $74.6 million last year. But he started out in the world of work with a paper route and then a humble $1.10-an-hour job. It’s hard to recall a time before Tim Cook worked at Apple—after all he joined the company in 1998,