The worst Batman is one who doesn’t have a no-kill rule, one that transcends the morals of the Batman known and loved by all. These evil versions ... and that was the super-intelligent android ...

Yet, despite how heroic the mainline Batman is, in plenty of other DC Comics, Batman has been evil, something to fear ... and that was the super-intelligent android, Failsafe.

But who could be turned? Who are they? [Batman and Superman] have to go out and figure it out. But that means spying on other heroes, friends, allies. We talked about the end of The Thing ...